Episode 32: Dallas Cowboys Netflix documentary discussion: Part 2.

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Welcome sports fans to Gen X Classic Sports, where we bring the nostalgia of our sportsfilled youth into the present

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Welcome back to the show, everybody. This will be episode number 32, where we continue and finalize our

discussion about the Netflix documentary regarding the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones. We're going to pick up where we

left off where Jimmy Johnson is no longer the coach of the Dallas Cowboys and sort of what into what all went into

that situation and some of the aftermath and what's gone on since. As always, please when you listen to us,

give us a like, give us a thumbs up, or subscribe to the show. It helps us

tremendously. And as always, thank you for listening. In other words, we're in

the middle of my prime and you're trying to figure out how to make these drafts be as good as Jimmy's. I thought that

was really telling. Um, I was mad when Jimmy left. Jimmy

says Jimmy's version is that Jimmy doesn't stay anywhere past about five years and Jimmy was tired and burned

out. And what he I don't think he said enough was tired of dealing with Jerry, but that Jimmy had put every bit of his

heart and soul into it and he was kind of looking for an exit anyway. and the toast and the 500 coaches comment just

set him over the edge and he's kind of an impulsive person and he just said that's it. That's Jimmy's side of it.

Jerry's side is, you know, uh we agreed to disagree so he had to go.

I mean, I don't know any any other way to say that. So, he's gone. What do

I don't really remember details about this, but what was what do y'all think your first thought was when you heard

who the next coach was? This would have been in 94. They won in

'92 and 93. This would have been in 93, 94. What the heck was your thought when you

found out who Jerry had come up with next? Barry Switzer, coaching legend, but had been out of the

out of the game for how many years? Uh,

five, six years, probably for sure. He's retired. Yeah. Never coached in the pros.

Certainly a head coach. Seemed Jimmy. Neither had Jimmy. Seemed to be an odd choice.

And of course, you know, then you find out all the Razerback connections back in those days. Jimmy and Jerry played on

the freshman team together and the freshman coach was Barry Switzer under Frank BS. They all knew uh Barry Switzer

was older than Jimmy and Jerry by a few years. And so I I don't know if he said

it in the documentary, but it had to be that Jerry's thought was we'll just keep keep rocking. I mean, we got a team

built and and the fact that he inherited Jimmy's entire staff because Jimmy

didn't go to another coaching job. Jimmy went to the house. Is there any loyalty among coaches

towards this guy that they've never worked for? I mean, no. It sounded like a mess. It sounded like

a mess. Do you think it was kind of Jerry saying, "I said 500 guys could coach this team.

Here's here's here's my point." Yeah. And and it's interesting that the

quote wasn't 500 guys could build this team. It was that 500 guys could coach this team. Right.

Right. Right. Such an odd choice. Oh, by the way, it's not like he was a offensive NFL passing

attack guru or a Bill Bellichic level defensive wishbone.

He ran the wishbone in college, which there's a history there with Aman. That's a whole side story, but he was a

CEO coach. If there ever was a CEO coach, he had coaches and he let him coach. He came to Dallas. The running

joke was that Barry was out of the out the office door at five o'clock. He ran it like a corporate job. I'm gonna see

y'all. So anyway, I thought it had disaster written all over it. I can't I couldn't

believe it. I'm like, this is the best. That's the best. You didn't even promote

the offensive defense coordinator. You just went and got a guy that off the street. So,

pretty interesting. Pretty interesting. Um, what did y'all think about the way the

players talked about Switzer versus the way a all the other players talked versus kind of Aman's uh opinion of him?

Anybody want to talk about that? Now, what did Aman think of Switzer? I guess that's where I should start.

He was not impressed because he wasn't a disciplinarian, but Switcher wasn't.

Aman loved the way Jimmy coached because Jimmy held people accountable and Switcher wasn't doing that. And in

Jimmy's uh process, Jimmy was the bad cop. Aman

sometimes was the good cop to the player, but he secretly loved it because he wanted Jimmy to be Yeah. He had to flip-flop that. Yeah. With

Switzer. Yeah, that's a great great point, Mark, because I think Aman's sort of

personality is, hey, I'm a professional. Would you just please be a professional, too, and let's get this done. He wasn't

exactly rah. and he sort of led by example. Quiet. I'm going to do my job. I'm good at it. You do your job and be

good at it. But the to me the thing I had never heard because I used to see

images of Barry Switzer and think, man, that guy's all over these dudes. Not not as a cowboy coach, as Oklahoma coach.

And I thought it was interesting that Aman, for those who don't know, Aman played for Switzer for one year at

Oklahoma, broke his ankle, and left. I thought it was interesting that Aman said, "This wasn't the dude that coached

me in Oklahoma. the dude to coach me at Oklahoma was in people's faces, you know, he was demanding, he was uh had

discipline and blah blah blah and then he comes to the Cowboys and there's none of that. I thought that was the most one

of the most interesting things said in the whole documentary. What was somebody somebody sum up what

Switzer's attitude was though towards pro football players about about discipline and stuff. What did he say

kind of about I think he said in the documentary what was his deal with discipline and whatnot

that they were professionals they should know how to act and take care of theirelves they should come in and work

out onel get treatment they shouldn't need to be told what to do all the time they were grown men grown men

he didn't need to berade them and blah blah blah and and by the way while we're at this juncture let's talk about their

personalities and their styles I mean so Jimmy was in everybody's face and Barry

was in nobody's face, right? And so, um,

you know, we go back and forth about this all the time when we just sit around and talk about it. What is the best approach, whether it's high school,

college, or pros? Should you be Jimmy and daring people to make mistakes so

that you can cut them or bench them? Let's say benching and high school and stuff, or should you be Barry and say,

"That's okay. You'll get them next time." What works and what doesn't? I don't know to this I know what I know

what history tells us works in Dallas but I can't speak for teams I don't follow. So I mean what do y'all think?

What what's just what you know about football and whatnot? What do you think works best? Which which side of that

coin seems to have the most success? The hardcore in your face.

We're old of course we're going to has the most success. Yeah, if you're just winning, talking

about winning, then that's what that's has the most success. What do you think?

Well, even today, you still you still see it the hardcore guys as much as they can be today.

Yeah. And as we sit here, we're in a world where Nick Sabin's not coaching college football and Urban Meyer's not

coaching college football and Bill Bich is coaching college football. So, let's let's flag the tape right there on those

comments and see where we are in a year or two. But um

yeah, so Bill Belch was known for cutting dudes that uh maybe didn't

perform up to standards. Uh he came from Parcels who most

definitely Parcels's favorite phrase was let's turn the roster. If you made Parcels's 53 man, the back the bottom

seven guys did not have a future unless they proved it week after week after week. Jimmy churned the roster

constantly. Jimmy, coach Asmafield. And um there's this theory that you hear

the media, the old school media guys say there's a theory out there that every time you fire a coach that was a players

coach, meaning easier, treat them like men, that the next coach better be the disciplined guy. And then the then vice

versa. If you have a disciplined guy, your next hire better be the easy easier guy. So Aman was astonished that Switzer

turned out to be the the the the players coach and not the uh the disciplinarian.

The the players seemed to like him though. I I thought that was interesting because I didn't know

u in the documentary that the ones that were in the documentary really talked about him highly and at the time I

didn't know that was the case. I didn't either. Me neither. It seemed to me like it bothered Aman more than anybody by far.

Yeah. Yeah. But all right. So in the midst of all that,

they got they got Dion and Switzer basically. And they and they did win their other super or they got Switzer.

They didn't make it with the what was it? Load left and all the year of the load left. And then they get beat by the

ners in the rematch. They don't go to the Super Bowl. Then they get Dion.

Then they go back. But um so about the coaching attitudes and

stuff, there's history of this in Dallas, Jimmy or Jerry went through. So Switzer

gets run off eventually, then they go through Chan Gayley, they go through Dave Campo, and they are awful. Campo

went five and 11, five and 11, and five and 11. So

Jerry hired who? after Campo was consistent. Isn't that

what you want out of a coaching? Consistency. Consistent. He lived up to the same standard year

after year, but then they hire Parcels. Yeah. After Campa.

So, you know, Parcels took a terrible team and came within a whisker of

getting the NFC title game. There's a whole story there, too. But back to the

disciplinarian guy, right? Parcel's completely gutted the roster, completely gutted the coaching staff, brought in a

guys like Drew Bledsoe and Benny Testaverdie, weeded out guys like Quincy Carter,

weeded out guys like I mean I could name others, but no sense in doing that. But basically turned it completely upside

down all over again and took over talent acquisition once again from Jerry. And so he rebuilt them from

the ground up and the Romo thing just put him over the edge and he uh he he

retired after that. But so what do they do? Sure enough, as the Dallas media predicts, what do they hire? Who do they

hire after the disciplinarian parcels?

Garrett Wade Phillips. Oh, Wade Phillips. That's right. Wade Phillips was known as a players coach

right out the gate. 13 and three home field advantage throughout the playoffs. He's such a players coach that the

players didn't feel like it'd be a big deal to go to Cabo in the bye with pop

stars. They get beat at home by a team that ended up beating the Patriots in

the Super Bowl led by Eli Manning. Blah blah blah. So anyway, here we are this

many years later and I'm winding it up. We're in this vicious cycle of the

owner, the GM, being the same dude and you just saw little hints of it here and

there in the in the documentary of people not respecting Jerry for his

football knowledge. Funniest scenes in the whole thing was Jerry wearing coach's clothes,

putting them through drills when Barry took over. I'd never seen that footage.

He literally had coaching clothes on and was putting them through I think he was working with the offensive line or

something. So, do y'all think that at his in his actual heart and soul Jerry truly wants

to win another Super Bowl or not? Well, let me let me ask it another way. Do you

think in his heart and soul he wants to give up any of his beliefs in order to

win another Super Bowl? No. No. Do I think he wants to win another Super Bowl? Absolutely he does. But he's

delusional in how he's going to do it. Yeah, that was a terrible question. Of course he wants to win a Super Bowl, but he thinks he's going to be able to

do it, you know, the same by doing things the same way he's done it for the last 30 years or whatever.

Mark, why won't Jerry change his way of looking at it? Yeah. I mean, the guy cried like eight times in the

documentary. He clearly cares, but um maybe they were crocodile tears.

I don't know. Maybe he was trying to garner sympathy from the general public. Maybe. Mark, what do you think? Does he

is he willing to give up whatever philosophy, control, more money than he

wants to, whatever to to if it means sharing the credit with other people, especially you think anything's going to

change? No, I don't either, Casey. No, I don't think so. I don't either. I think it's got to have

his stamp on it. Whatever happens next, it's got to have his stamp on it. So a

also as we sit here they just made what he keeps referring to as the Hershel Walker trade 2.0 basically and we know

that's not what just happened but he's trying this is his I think I don't think

if the documentary happens I I don't think the Michael the Micah Parson's trade happens either. I think the

documentary got Jerry's juices going, saying there is a way to have a catalyst

for change. Big change, fast change, important change. And I think he's

I think he's trying to find that glory hole again he keeps talking about for his old You ain't never heard him say

glory hole. I'm not being dirty. Jerry's got Yeah, Gary Jerry has catchphrases.

And one of his old man catchphrases is finding that glory hole. That's right. And another one of them is

circumcising a mosquito because you get in the weeds too far. You know, he you know, so he's got a bunch of Jerryisms.

But uh I think the Micah Parson's trade is Jerry's attempt to find that next

glory hole. And uh anyway, kind of huh

killing me. By the way, also one other comment that Jerry made that got me kind of tickled

was he's talking about them landing in San Francisco and he looked out in the distance and what did he see? Y'all

remember that? The oil wells. That did what? Help him buy the Cowboys. I look out there and I see the oil well

that I struck that helped me buy the Cowboys. So yeah. So going back to that

when he found that, you know, that gusher that gave him all that money, he was what, $350,000

in debt at the time, he said in the doc in that documentary. I didn't see I didn't remember that. I don't remember ever reading that before. I knew he was

a wilder and not ahead, you know, not rich by any means. But so I'm going to tell this story so it'll

be on camera or on recording and my kids can hear it someday maybe and think, "Oh, that was cool. I didn't know that.

This this happened to me and I I find it kind of interesting and every time this comes up, Jerry comes up, I think about

it. So, I'm in my house that I live in right now about 10 years ago

and some great Saturday afternoon, someone rings my doorbell and I'm home

by myself and I answer the door and there's a gay-headed guy standing there and my absolute first thought looking at

him was, "This guy's in really good shape for an old dude." dude like he was 70

maybe 75 plus and I thought this guy is really well put together. He has taken

care of himself. I don't know what he wants from me but anyway. So I open the door go out there and I'm not going to

tell you his name. I don't think it's important but he tells me his name and it kind of rg a bell but didn't ring a

bell but kind of rg a bell and I'm kind of confused and my mind's blown like I should know this person. So this guy is

standing there and he's wearing khakis and a a ball cap and a t-shirt and I'm thinking, "Wow, this guy's in good

shape." And he says, "Hey man, I know there's cell phones and stuff in the world, but I am lost. I'm looking for

such uh something he was out there looking for." And he said, "I'm lost and

I'm looking for such and such a road and I've got to be close to it." And I immediately realized he doesn't have a

phone and a Google map. So he tells, "So I had a Cowboys t-shirt on." And he

says, "Are you a big fan?" I said, "Yeah, unfortunately, blah, blah, blah." And he goes, "Yeah."

He says, "Me, too. You know, uh, old Jerry's a buddy of mine." And I I was like, "Really?" This is all on my front

porch. I'm like, "Really?" He goes, "Yeah." He said, "Old Jerry's such a I can't remember what he said, like such a

gambler, wildcat or whatever he called him. He said, "I used to have to loan that joker money to pay his mortgage."

He said because we all his buddies knew he was in the oil business and some months he'd be doing great and some

months he wouldn't. He said that joker called me broke sometimes and I'd loan him some money to pay his bills.

And uh anyway, I think he said his son because they were friends, his son ended

up working in a certain capacity for the Cowboys and he said so I'm out there a lot at the games and so forth. And um he

said ain't it ain't it something that a guy and he said he was on the money too.

He said, "You know, ain't it something that a guy 34 years ago I'm helping pay his bills that month, ain't it

something? He's a multi-billionaire x many year 34 years later." And I we had

a big laugh about it. He was a super nice guy. He shook my hand and uh he he

said, "Well," he said, "You know, it's it's been a long interesting road for Jerry, but I'm I'm happy for him. were

buddies and all that kind of stuff. But let me just say that he was an old teammate of Jerry's and they had plenty

of shared history and I thought it was really cool. But I've always thought about that story when I think about u

Jerry being broke because his whole world was those oil wells coming in or not. And and you as a married man, you

think, man, I got to go tell my wife that we came up with nothing this week or nothing this month and she's paying

to me. I just always think about that cuz luckily he had old teammates and buddies and friends that would float him

and I always wondered, man, did he pay these guys back in any way? And then I think, well, his kids got a job for him

or had a job for him apparently, so I guess so. So anyway, I always thought that was pretty cool. That guy just

randomly rang my doorbell because he was lost out there where I lived.

Um, so yeah, I guess if you're going to be a billionaire, you need good friends. That's the moral to that story.

Um, anything else about the documentary? I'm We're right at a good point to stop. Any thoughts, comments, concern? I

thought it was well done. I thought Netflix actually did a really good job. Troy Aman joked that uh Jerry had

complete editorial control over it, so that's why you get what you get out of it and that kind of thing. That's fine.

Um, anything else? Yeah, going back to the

um doing whatever it takes to win it all. It makes you wonder, makes me wonder. Um

making comments like that and then it's hard to square that with doing things

like firing winning coaches. Um,

and even in that documentary at the end, the one thing that stuck with me was he was talking to the uh, who was it, the

Rams they were playing at that preseason game. Oh, yeah. And saying some and and and telling the

the owner or general manager there on the field that y'all just signed that quarterback for that much money. I could

never do that. And then and then you come out before that saying things like, you know, the all we're all in this

season and that sort of thing. Yeah. It's It's hard to I know he wants to win, but you know, it

just it makes it hard to That's totally fair. I'm not defending him. That story I thought I thought that

story was cute, but I don't mean I have a soft spot about I mean, it's just like, hey, it just makes you wonder how important

is winning. I tend to go with the the attitude and the way this certain reporter in Dallas says it. The Cowboys are a marketing

team that happens to play football. Yeah, that's and that's kind of the way I look at it because I think that's how they look at

it. I hate to say that. That's the way I've kind of thought about it for a long time, but to

actually hear those things, it's it sucks. It does. It's a football family. I don't think

they will ever ever ever sell that team. So, this is what you get and and you

I think uh we lead the league in everything but the

super the important stuff. Yeah, as far as football, we we sell more jerseys and booze and tickets than

anybody. We don't win more Super Bowls than anybody. Most valuable franchise in all of sports.

And that's that's what hurt that's what hurts as a fan. Yeah. Well, yeah,

there are own, by the way, there Mark's sitting down there, an LSU fan, and he's

got two prominent players on a pro team that's famous for just straight up telling you they're not going to spend

the money. So, you got teams like the Browns and the Bengals who refuse to spend. They will tell you, "We don't

have it. We're not going to spend it." That is not Jerry's problem at all. And

yes, there's a salary cap to work through. But, um, but is it is it bad luck? Is it bad

decisions? I mean, here we are 30 years later and it's the same 35 and it's the same

old same old every year. So, we talk about this a lot. It's It's culture.

It is culture. Yeah. Of the Cowboys. Starts at the top. It's once you sign that contract and you

put that star on your helmet as a player, you made it.

I think life is too good. It's too good to be a Cowboy because you're uh

the fans love you no matter what. the media um is going to talk about you all

the time because you're the only you're the big story. So it's kind of hard to to lose, you know, I mean lose in life

is what I mean. And so it makes you wonder, do they work as really as hard as they can at rehab and weightlift? I'm

not saying some of them don't. You got dudes like Zack Martin that I have no doubt put every ounce of his being into

trying to win a Super Bowl. It didn't work out. And I'm sure there's dudes on the team now, but as far as the overall

attitude, it's like, hey, we made the playoffs. We sold a bunch of tickets.

We will make this move in the off season that's really insignificant, but it's going to give the fans enough hope

that they're going to buy tickets next year and t-shirts next year. And so, you know, a good example is us always

talking about how tough the SEC is. And you know what, those Razerbacks or those Old Miss Rebels, whoever, they should be

happy with nine and three and occasionally something a game better or eight and four and uh a bowl game. I

think that's kind of what you get out of Dallas is that wait a minute, we went 12

and four and made the play. Well, 12 and five now. Went 12 and five. We made the playoff three times in a row. Yeah, you

did not get past the first round. But yeah, but we were there. Mhm. Couple other things go our way. we're in

the Super Bowl. And so we've been hearing this for 35 years or 30 years. So that's what sucks. That's what sucks

as a fan. And I have no doubt they'd love to win a Super Bowl, but that partly is because of all the financial

windfall that would come their way, too. So it's kind of tough like Casey said

that you say one thing, but you do something different. It doesn't have the same impact,

right? Yeah. And as a final thought, I will say this. I told y'all I've told y'all this two

days in a row cuz I won't shut up when I get to thinking about it. But the fact that Jerry has never won a Super Bowl

without Jimmy really. Yes, Switzer one. That was Jimmy's team and Jimmy's coaching staff.

Jimmy didn't win one without Jerry either as a guy writing the checks. Now,

different situations. True. Because we go into the Bellich and Brady thing. Who's more responsible? And

and this is a really interesting one because Jerry, I mean, sorry, Jimmy, he

ended up taking that Miami Dolphins job and had Dan Marino and he couldn't get

it done down there. He turned them around after Shula and got him into the playoffs, but they really didn't sniff a

Super Bowl and he just kind of threw I mean, my interpretation of it was he just sort of gave up and went home. He

did what he could do. So, was the Miami uh ownership and GMs and

all was that not structured to get Jimmy exactly what he wanted like he had in Dallas and that hurt him? Could he not

get a get rid of Marino and get a young quarterback because they didn't want to because it was Mar what? Because, you

know, word was him and Marino did not agree about how to run an offense and so forth. It does make you wonder though

whether they will ever admit it if they needed each other more than they imply. And Jimmy couldn't make a Hershel Walker

trade in Miami. Correct. That Hershel Walker trade was pretty much what did it. And I'm not defending Jerry. I'm just

pointing out that that that is a thing. Jimmy didn't get it done. That was a big part of the documentary.

Who's who's uh ultimately who was responsible for that decision.

Yeah. And I think that was one of the big deals in their relationship. And since then has been the discussion about the Hershel trade and who really was

responsible. I read in Jimmy's own autobiography that he and his coaches were jogging one day and he didn't take

credit for actually saying it but the comment came up by someone is well the only thing thing we have worth of

anything to trade is Hershel and then someone said well okay why don't we just do that and that's where and then they

went to Jerry and to Jerry's credit he agreed so but Jerry wants to of course say that I sitting in my office one day

and got to thinking you know well Bum Bright actually put that notion in his

head. Yeah, I've never heard that before. Never heard it said that. Well, the only thing we got so Hersy might want to

consider trading. I've never heard that before. Now, by the way, both things could be

true. Jerry could forgot that conversation happened with Bombbrite at the time.

Jimmy could have come in and mentioned it and then Jerry thought, "Oh, yeah, that's right. We did have we could have

done that. Yeah, that." So both things can be true actually. Now when they talk about the Hershel

trade, are they talking about the actual swap Hershel for the draft picks and the five players?

Because there was more to that trade than just that cuz there was a condition

of those five players that if they weren't on the roster the next year, they got just got the picks. They got more draft picks for them.

Well, is that you know is Jerry I remember that. But I is Jerry considering he's

right. He's behind that too. Is he part of that, you know, or is he just, you know, we traded Hershel Walker and got

what? They get a first round, two first rounds and a third and a fifth or something. Plus these five players or something. They

got a pretty good They got five or seven players and they got four or five picks that were high enough that they

a couple of those players were pretty good ball players, pretty good players. I've heard anywhere from nine to 12 or 13 picks is ultimately what the hall

was. Well, that was after the other players after that he worked it. So, who who did all that? You know, I I don't believe

Jerry did all that. I believe Jimmy did all that. Jimmy is Now, Jerry might have said, "We could trade Hershel and get X amount of draft

picks." He didn't He wasn't thinking far enough. He had to get rid of these five players, get more draft picks because we

got cut them. No, it's it's the only time that it'll ever happen like that for the great train

robbery to be that severe because Jimmy wanted the draft picks,

right? The only way he was going to get them was whoever came up with that clause about cutting guys and then

having a value assigned to him for round. He had no intention of keeping those players. And for the for the Minnesota guy to not

see Jimmy come sneaking up behind him is it'll never happen again that way. It'll

never No. And um Jimmy said consistently all these years he wanted to draft picks because

he knew he still had guys in the college ranks that he had recruited that he knew well enough to bring them in. and flip

it. And so, yeah, I don't know, David, that is actually a great point. Did Jerry agree to just get rid of Walker, get

what picks they could, or was he involved whatsoever with this with the hall of picks that came from the

players, right? And you know, Jimmy did or Jimmy did say that they were so awful, they did

actually keep a guy, I think Ike Holt came out or Isaac Holt came out of that and they kept him around to to because

they needed a secondary. Um, but yeah, they still ended up with whatever 10 plus picks out of the whole thing

ultimately. And then, by the way, they didn't ultimately draft that many guys. They packaged I want to be in the second

round. Here's a third and a fifth and let me move, you know, whatever. So, it was masterful and no one will ever get

caught by that kind of a deal again. Never happened. So, yeah. I don't know, David, that's a good point. Is Jerry taking credit for a

toz? because I think everyone would believe Jimmy had everything to do with the draft picks part of that. So,

um, okay. So, that's the enough whining about America's teams shortfalling

and uh the last whatever year. So, uh here we are uh when the Cowboys won

their last Super Bowl. I was 24 years old and I'm 54 years old right now and

I'm still waiting on that next one. So, what was it? 95 they won the last one.

94 season. Is that right? Yeah, they they won the 9192 season. 93 94 season. No,

they won the Super Bowl in 96 for the 95 season, I think. And they missed the 95

one and they won the 94 and the 93 ones. What did we say earlier? They've never played the Super Bowl on a flat screen.

On a flat screen TV. That's an awesome Yeah. Uh they haven't won a Super Bowl in the

internet era. Whole generation of fans, a whole generation of fans don't know them as a champion.

That's a whole whole another podcast right there was true. That's Think about it. That's like us

growing up and hearing that, you know, before the Bears won the Super Bowl that they were, you know, world

champions way back before the Super Bowl, you know, you know, back when we were in the 40s. But yeah, in the 40s. That's like kids

growing up now. Sounds like the Cowboys were good in the 90s. That's really true because the Bears

were horrible for so early in Payton's career and you find out they had been since the 40s and then they get really

good in the 80s and yeah, it had been 35 to 40 years since their fans knew succ

whatever Dad. Yeah, the Cowboys were good. Yeah. Okay, whatever. Right. That's true.

Yeah, Jordan good, but whatever. All right. All right. Well, enough being depressed. I appreciate that closing

thought. All right, guys. I appreciate the So, that's our wrap up of the

Netflix Jimmy Jerry Feud documentary. We'll never mention it again. And uh

thank you guys. Liar. Liar. All right. Thanks for your time, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you for joining us on Gen X

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