Episode 18: GenX Sports Video Games: Part 2.

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welcome sports fans to Gen X classic Sports where we bring the Nostalgia of our Sports filled youth into the present

day grab your favorite retro jersey crack open a cold one and let's stroll down memory lane

together hello everybody and welcome back uh this will be episode 18 which is

the continuation in part two of our last podcast episode which was about vintage

video games sports related video games especially back in the 70s 80s and the

early 90s when we were playing them and uh if you enjoy what we're doing here I

just want to ask you to please subscribe please press like on whatever uh service

you're using and we'd appreciate it very much and as always thank you for

listening so let's pick back up with the Vintage Sports video games so once again

Sears being on top of the world back then they they branded the the in television also so you might see an in

television floating around with sear stamped on it didn't didn't know that until I looked this up um and yeah

Mattel they were they were huge company at that time and um it's funny that 20%

of the market sold that much stuff that tells you how much stuff uh Atari was

selling right yeah so so yeah I'll have I have IM Imes of most of this thank goodness

that I can put on the YouTube and you can just see how far Graphics have come over the years as the technology got

better so and then that really gets you uh David you were talking about playing

this in high school that really gets you up to when the Nintendo the old NES actually came out it came out in 85 but

I know for a fact we didn't get ours until 88 the NES I don't do you I know you had

one do you remember when you got it m basically oh no oh

wow no I mean probably about 86 well the only reason I remember when we got ours

is because uh somebody on this call I won't name who uh found ours in the trunk of the

[Laughter] car and got it out and had won the game

that came with it before he even unwrapped it for Christmas played I played it a lot ain't going to lie

mom worked nights so she'd come in it was hid in the trunk of the car Casey go out there on Christmas break we were

home all day he'd get it out of the trunk of the car while she was sleeping play it for hours put it back in the

trunk of car box and he had it came with the Super

Mario Brothers which he had already won before he opened it on Christmas he didn't even mess around with duck hunt

man he went straight from Mario Brothers oh man I'm terrible

that's awesome C I was a senior in high school and he was in seventh grade and I was like dude you better act surprised when

you open that thing is all I can say you better act like this is the greatest gift ever he's done worn it out

man in the week leading up to Christmas um so it came out in one

version that was you stuck the cartridge straight in the top and that's actually really from my understanding it's

actually how sought after by the collectors because it was more stable to

just like a a tari to just stick the cartridge in and leave it that thing that we all bought came out in ' 86

where you stuck the cartridge in a tray and dropped it down and they switched to

that design because VCRs were so popular and they thought people would associate

the thing with a vcr and even be more excited about it what they didn't realize was sliding it in and then

sliding it down actually made the the El ronics less stable inside of there and

so you had a whole generation of people who eventually the plugin didn't connect

properly and the games would start fritzing out on it and so you had a whole generation that had to buy a part

to put back in there and replace to make it the Springs going out and it wouldn't wouldn't pop up like it was supposed to

and I said you'd have the the trays would break and they wouldn't pop up like they were supposed to

yes and so but but all of that connection would get messed up and so your games wouldn't save right they

wouldn't start up right and so forth so all right so David got it we got it or

about the same time whatever so we had it at two houses and David's parents were always nice enough to let all of us

uh neighborhood youngans uh gather at their house but and stay up late

so Nintendo had their own version of B baseball which was terrible so we ended

up finding a better baseball game I'll talk about later but at the same time

according to the notes two different football games came out on Nintendo basically the same year well

they were one year apart so we got our we got our system in ' 88 and then in '

89 techmobile came out and changed everything for us that's why I wish Mark was on here

we'll have to follow up with him at some point point about techmobile so we started congregating

and playing techmobile late into the night after we played basketball or whiffle ball or

whatever and techmobile of course it scrolled left to right much better

graphics much better sound had the the cut SC cut scenes where they would show

a full-sized image celebrating a touchdown or whatever it kind of talked to you you know it kind of did the down

set hut thing and all that and how how many times did we play that against each

other there's no telling right what do you remember about those nights

David I lost a lot that's mainly what I remember and it was the game was

rigged no it it was fun it was more about hanging out than the game I guess

but yeah I do remember I never could figure out what the other guy was doing good

enough I guess not like Mark did that night with Chris yeah so Casey you were in high school I

was in Co or you were in junior high high school I was in early college and these guys were later in college more or

less uh that's kind of how the ages broke out and uh ourselves and a couple

other people we played a lot and uh techmo Bowl quickly I would say became

one of our favorites although we'll talk about some others that we played also it sold 5 million units it wasn't just our

favorite it was a lot of people's favorite and it was the first one that used real NFL players so um I've joked

about this on another podcast you know Bo Jackson was a cheat code he was he was voted the greatest video game

athlete of all time in one of these on one of these websites because you couldn't tackle Bo Jackson and

techmobile no it was it was unfair yeah we would argue I I will I

remember saying before you'd ever play fine I'll play play you but you're not getting the Raiders that would that

would have to be the agreement with anybody just about yeah cuz whoever had Bo Jackson and the Raiders were normally

going to be unstoppable even the Bears defense couldn't stop him yeah they're going to

win yeah um Casey do you remember the arguments about what teams you had to

get and everything and you couldn't have we uh we got we got a like a

Nintendo and pi I picked I did pick up uh techmo Bowl the other night uh me and

the boys played here and uh of course I think they knew you know like because

they watch YouTube and whatever but they've never played it and so we fired it up and right off the bat I was like

I'm getting Raiders and I just demolished my teenagers you know and they they were like oh the old man still

got it like yeah with you that's not that's not really fair with you playing

with Bo Bo yeah well um but what's funny about that is so I'm and so I was like okay I'll I'll

you know pick another team and so this was what what' you say 8 n no 89 when it came out and I'm

sitting there looking at some of the other teams and I'm trying to figure out well who who was really playing on that team at that time you know and I was

trying to think of who would be a good one to get well you had uh the Cowboys had herel Walker still he was hard to

tackle the Bears had pton and Willie uh was it Willie G

for a receiver um Denver had Elway I can't remember who some of those teams are

just awful on there but yeah San Francisco had uhan Francisco's good Steve Young or Montana whoever it was

rice and rice and Roger Craig and Roger Craig too yeah the Bears defense had

Mike Cleary May their defense was supposed wasn't they supposed to be the best defense on that that and the Giants

because some people think that they programmed um single ter and Lawrence Taylor to almost be as good as Bo

Jackson on the defensive side but most people never knew that and if you were out of position it wouldn't matter Bo

was gonna score even if you had Lawrence Taylor or single ter what's funny about

that one to me is you had to pick the only way to really stop somebody was you had to pick the exact play and if you

couldn't pick the exact play you had to at least pick whether they were running or throwing so if you're playing the

ners and they were the only team that had the shotgun from what I remember maybe Denver did If You're Gonna Play

the Niners and you picked run defense and they got in shotgun they were gon to score you were screwed you had to you

had to hope somebody could catch them but it was stuff like that is what is made it fun and you ended up trying to

out guess the other guy and so what David alluded to earlier at this point mark was living on

his own across town remember he was living over on the Arkansas side and in a mobile

so Mark was hosting games by then and I went over there one night I don't know if y'all were there or not but I know I

was there and Mark and Chris had been cussing at each other for probably already a couple hours by then and they

wanted to play one more time or whatever because you know we call them techmo tournaments we'd be like hey we're gonna

do a tournament tonight you know it's like playing basketball loser has to sit out winners get to keep

playing and Chris uh I don't know who had who one of them had San Francisco

and Mark picked like the first six plays that Chris caught it he picked them so

perfectly that it was three plays in punt then three plays in punt again so

eight plays in a row Chris got nothing but two punt out of it and he was livid he was slinging stuff around and

everything Mark was Mark would play just lying there on the floor on his stomach he could play on his stomach and he was

just laughing and rolling around and everything man everybody get so mad when

we played that that's what that's what I remember is how mad we would get so yeah so so that was that was big

enough but to me even though techmo was that fun what really changed it was the

one that came out in 90 which was nes playaction football and that's the one I

sent y'all two screen two screenshots of though it scrolled kind of at an angle

but but mostly horizontally it had 11 players the graphics were still not

great but they were better than anything other than techmo bow we would ever seen and the key to that one for us and

maybe for everybody was that you could buy what they called the satellite controller and plug two more joysticks

in and play two versus two game changer for us yeah because we always had four

Dudes around it seemed like and you just take what you had just done in whiffle

ball or what you just done hooping night hooping and just carry it into the house

two two on two so for those of you thinking what is that game it's it's

it's it's a little more on the Obscure side once techmo came out but it was a Nintendo's Z football they had come out

with a product you could plug those joysticks in and play four two on two and it was the only sports game I

think at the time they had that would would use that and so they included cards little laminated cards in the

instructions that you could show them to your buddy so you'd sit two together and two together you you hide the card from

the opposing team and show your buddy what play y'all were about to run and then the cool thing about that

was you could switch off players and block for each other do y'all remember that oh yeah yes so if you were the QB

you could throw the pass down the field and then you could switch off to the nearest receiver and become a blocker

for your buddy yes game changer for us now wasn't that the game that you could

run the option on that we always try to run yes yes yes so you would you'd run

the option you'd pitch it and then you'd switch over as quick as you could and become either like the tight end or a

wide receiver to block downfield um for your running back it was awesome and it was slow it was it

didn't move as fast as anybody'd be used to now but the fact that you could do it

in teams man that's that was everything to us that's I remember it was slow even

for us then because I think we were like trying to you know hurting our thumb trying to move the runners faster and it

was just they just move everybody moved so slow in that game yeah we had some battles with that

I mean some absolute battles Chris Matt Mark us I mean like it's it it's so

funny how it's the same thing no matter what we did if you lost you had to sit a while and boy you didn't want to do that

you get mad about that you know and then you'd sit there and think the the guy I'm playing with didn't do his part that

time or whatever and you're you know you're like dang he missed a tackle man it cost us look looking at this

screenshot it looks like there's 11 players on the field too there are yeah and that was a big yeah there 11 on each

side yeah because of the technology you kind of limited so that was a pretty big deal yeah and the screen it have to kind

of scroll and keep up with the action and and it was the first one that was kind of able to do that without it being

a problem and all but it it was slow the game the the action I can remember Chris running long ones and he'd get to

giggling while he was running hoping nobody would catch him you know it'd be like it'd be such a pressure cooker for

him to be running down the sideline hoping nobody was going to catch up with him and stuff he just start laughing

nervous thinking if if the guy busted it out of this picture you say they're on the 30 so they have 70 yards to go it

would take probably 10 minutes for a guy to run that 70 yards it seemed like was so

slow I that's the only game that's the only one I remember playing with four people that would have been it's the

only one we did yeah looks like that would have been a bigger deal I don't know what else they would have could

have corporated that with that's the only one I remember playing I think it was their first sports game that used

the Fourplay satellite and I don't know why they didn't come out with more maybe they did none that we played but that to

me that it's just such a big deal when more than two people can be involved in

what's going on and can sit there and we would sit there man until the we hour thank God David's parents were cool

about it because we'd be there till late a lot of late late nights doing that well because by then we were older I

mean you know yeah some we were older people by then older kids and y'all were

and about to be done with college I was in college uh Casey was in high school

so it was we were older kids we you could be doing a lot worse than what we were doing till 2 o'clock in the morning

playing those video games for sure that's true we what are you laughing about I said we

did that too oh

worse that must have been on Fridays this was Saturdays yeah yeah so I don't

know who on what I'm assuming somebody had to roll up two controllers and haul them over to David's you didn't have

four controllers did you did we bring two I don't think so I think y'all would bring you would bring two more over I

think I don't think I had four who had the the the Fourplay splitter thing I

think I had it okay must have because I don't remember us having I don't either

I think I bought it or got it or something because I knew we'd be gathering up at at the house and I think

just had you bring two controllers over yeah I think Chris would show up with his own controller too maybe so Chris

probably for anybody yeah that honestly if you added it all up I would bet

anything we played techmobile and then this game more than anything else we played because you could it just CA so

much fun to compete with each other doing that so I don't remember playing techmobile at my house that much I

remember playing over at Mark's place over there on Arkansas side

playing at Tech M over there I just remember playing this play action at my place all the time seemed like yeah and

honestly as I look at this time frame sadly that kind of was the end for us we

really uh we'll talk about the Madden stuff just for a second but we didn't really that Madden wasn't around when we

were doing all of this um our run with it kind of ended probably 93 94

somewhere in there after we've been playing those for three or four years um Madden didn't come out it came out in 90

um it was on the Sega uh Sega Genesis which we had and I put a screenshot in

here for y'all to see Madden scrolled vertically too it the first Madden game scrolled up and down let's not forget

about Nintendo baseball yeah yeah I'm getting there uh

I I didn't mean to screw up screw up things by jumping to Sega but I remember

Dave's house in between games if like there was an extra person or whatever Mr

Kaufman had a a a Commodore computer yeah and somebody would be over in the corner playing golf or something waiting

waiting to play football I tried to find that game that we there was a game on

there that I loved and David and I played it a lot but it wasn't an actual game it was a simulation game for

NFL you had a team's Playbook and it set the game up and then all you did was

call play and watch the action happened by the computer do you remember that David yes yes so it was a strategy game

you didn't you didn't Juke people and throw the ball and catch it you called the plays and the computer decided

whether that was a good play or not and we played that thing for hours and that was usually the one that I was over

there playing if I wasn't playing the Nintendo I love that game man I I tried to find it have no idea what it's called

and uh yeah so back to instead of Sega and All That back to

where we actually ended up so couldn't just play football on there all the time so on page three of y'all's things I put

a couple of more and then there was a fourth on page four um or a third on

page four there um so somebody had Jordan versus bird I don't know who I know that was on that little it was on

that little computer yeah that's you're talking about we played that a lot over there

yep and then we Casey and I ended up with that on Nintendo also Y and then I

know y'all remember the Hoops game that I put the picture of on there we played that too that was the street ball game

one One V one street ball I did pick that up the other day too and we've been playing it you remember that David it's

fine I don't know if I remember that one or not you I promise you you played it with us two I don't remember it by this

graphic incent I'm sure I played it yes yes it had a little short fat guy that

could dunk it had a girl on there had a tall skinny dude that dunked it had a little bit of everything and you had to learn what they were good at cuz like

one dude couldn't shoot one dude couldn't dribble it it was street ball and it played different than other games

but we did we did play a lot and then you said Nintendo baseball and maybe we

did play that but I remember Baseball Stars the most that was what that was on Nintendo

yeah yeah when you said Nintendo I thought you meant their brand no baseball Nintendo no Baseball Stars was

the best yeah if if it wasn't techmo or the football game it had to be baseball stars that we played the most my

goodness man that game was so fun but remember they come out with RBI Baseball

around that time or before that and that had the major league players and it had the Cardinals know

the Cardinals were good at that time had Vince Coleman and willing to get had all that speed and I remember yep Vince

Coleman hit it to the left side of the infield you weren't throwing him out and you weren't going he was going to steal the base you weren't going to throw him

out he was like the Bo Jackson of RBI Baseball as far getting on and the third baseman didn't have strong enough arm to

thr hardly anybody out much less Miss Coleman because he was like Superman fast on that

game I remember that and wouldn't I didn't like it because your pitcher only

last like two innings well because you throw fast balls and he get tired right yeah

baseball All Stars was the one that didn't have any licensing so it had the it had the guy named Pete that you knew

was Pete Rose but that's all they could call him and so he was a slap hitter who got on base all the time and remember uh

Baseball Stars was the first one we played where you could actually turn decent double plays and stuff right

wasn't that the game you could build your own team yeah I think so yeah it had a way of yeah it remembered a

franchise and all that you could build your players we played that a lot yes it it had the

it had the first game play that we had where a guy would could lay out at third

or on the infield could lay out catch a ground or stand up and throw a dude out at first that was the first game we

played that really allowed that so you can see on the graphics that

that baseball yes yeah nothing like killing a rally by

turning a double play off a sliding play by your short stop you know and yep I do

remember the Outfield you remember the Outfield play was hard you had to watch like the Shadow with a ball and kind of

line up with it or else the ball sail right over your head it was kind of hard catching fly balls on that

game yeah it was but it had Babe Ruth it just called him babe and it had Pete

Rose and just called him Pete and and stuff such as that so that they didn't get in any legal trouble but you knew

you knew who you were playing when you did that

um but yeah we played it a million times too we really did play play baseball star and then I do remember RBI with the

speed from the Cardinals and all that for sure and you know what's weird about

it is that only gets us up to about 93 or 94 and all of us old dudes man we were pretty much done with it at that

point yeah you know it it we kind of outgrew the whole concept in a way now

now in college I'm remember having we did a Casey and I had a Sega Sega Genesis and somebody in college did and

I remember playing a Joe Montana Football in college and it scroll GNA bring that up yeah it's it scrolled

vertically too but it was better much better graphics and everything and it was fun have you seen the U Madden

documentary David I don't think I have about the game there's a really good documentary

on maybe I don't know if it's prime or Netflix one of those I remember I've seen where it was advertised I had

watched it it's pretty good I like all the technical side of it but it's it's uh it's pretty interesting the evolution

of that through the years the thing I like after talking

about all this and and and playing recently on the Nintendo with my kids uh

which like you said we I know y'all kind of got out of it and I did too not long after this I played the PlayStation a

little bit but just the Simplicity man of of these controllers and the buttons and

and and not having done that for what however many 30 years now or whatever really the Nintendo and picking that

controller up and play with my kids man and and and all that kind of coming back oh man that's uh that's been pretty fun

I ain't gonna [Laughter] lie pro wrestling baby coming off the

top rope yeah there was a wrestling game Casey and I had that was fun it wasn't real wrestlers it was fictional guys but

it was it was fun too and um yeah I mean every you know we had stuff to the side that we played for

sure but um mostly it was these games we just talked about um we all had our turn

at Mike Tyson and this was before the internet when you knew what the good cheat codes were so we all got knocked

out by probably two or three guys short of get into Tyson most of the time we all took our turns getting knocked out

by some dude on there we couldn't beat or whatever yeah oh I'd get so mad fighting Tyson

and getting knocked out I hated that so bad um I will say this as far as us

getting old though David and I actually did do something else when PlayStation 2

came out uh David had internet I had this was early days of the internet it wasn't great internet but we both had

internet and we played uh Playstation 2 PGA golf him and elero me and Little

Rock and we would create we created our own characters the more you played the more you could buy shorts and CLE uh

golf shoes and and a better glove and better clubes and we had our characters created and everything and we would

play I'm sure with a lot of technological interruptions but we would play better than you would believe in

the late 90s or whatever we could play uh that game against maybe the early

2000s and we could play we could play 18 holes late at night uh you know when the

internet wasn't been being used for anything else we could play 18 holes against each other or with each other

yeah had our own little headsets we could talk to each other yeah had the headsets on you could talk to each other

and create a character and get out there and play that was pretty fun yeah that that was pretty fun remember we played

St Andrews yeah I mean I I don't yeah played St Andrews yeah and so

you know by then I was I think Dylan was coming along and all that and it you know oh you're wife made fun of us for

sure oh yeah she said we were dorks um yeah and the technology so much better

Dylan was telling me that the I think if I'm not mistaken there's another PGA game going to hit PlayStation 5 a new

one and I don't know if it's a Tiger Woods game or what but he was telling me it's probably going to be pretty cool so

um but yeah Casey I could Pro I can hang with Dylan we can play techmobile and I

don't feel so bad I tried to play I don't know how many times Madden oh yeah

with him on Playstation or Xbox and he just absolutely destroys me and I I hate

it man it's not fun you know no it's not it's not realistic I always hated it

when it's Fourth and 30 and you could throw a out route and turn it up the field and get a first down that's not

real that's not football you know I know get off my lawn kids turn your music

down man I know but still you didn't see any of

that crap happening in the NES uh what was it NES play action football you see any of that yeah no you

did not fourth and long in your own territory you're punting that ball buddy oh by the way uh speaking of those games

I don't know who I want to say it was Mark I could be wrong but I remember a

tense night very tense a lot of Anger of playing uh techmo over at his house and

somebody nails like a 60 yard field goal to beat somebody or 50 it's probably 50

back in those days but somebody nails like a a crazy long field goal for that game and beat somebody at the at the at

the buzzer and that causing a commotion you know stuff getting thrown and everything because you don't I mean you

just that doesn't happen but uh yeah so yeah we definitely had some fun with all

of that yep no doubt um and then you

know the the precursor to this besides the handheld games and air hockey the other precursor was that uh magnetic

football that buz you set the players on the thing and they yeah we had we had that I spent hours with that thing you

know it's that's so lame now but back then you didn't have anything else oh yeah it was it was great at the time

yeah the late 70s it seemed like yeah and then I know one reason the video gaming

slowed down was wasn't just because we all scattered cuz we were all still around we picked up pool at some point

and we would go from playing basketball at night into the pool hall and U in the

shop and shoot pool instead of playing video games so that that allowed us to play our music and talk more grownup

smack to each other and so forth so that was fun too we spent a lot of years doing that into the we hours well uh

video game and also started in feeding into work life stay up all night playing video game hard to get up go to work

next day yeah depending on our ages and stuff I probably had to get up all or

something the next day yeah what get he wouldn't yeah well you were working like

split shifts for the phone company yeah one time I was yeah plus the console

started getting expensive of course they're really expensive now but yeah you think back then a game cost

him 40 bucks that's a lot of money back then man yeah

money Sega was like over a hundred or something for the console I think oh

yeah I I will brag on I will brag on my brother a little bit and say that one

time he David you didn't work there anymore I don't think but but Greg worked at uh Kmart and uh they had a

video game tournament I remember that we didn't even own the G was it it wasn't

was it techmo yeah we didn't own it at the time we later did Casey went there you got second place in the Techo

tournament yeah just from playing against each us CU we didn't even own the game at Dave's house yeah didn't

even have I remember happening I remember that happening yeah that's how much we uh played it we played it a lot

and I I'm sure it was true that when you picked it back up recently yeah I gave Grant Casey's oldest kid I gave him a

console for Christmas that plays Super Nintendo or regular Nintendo gam so I was like all right y'all are on your own

go find some games and luckily enough there's still places around that will sell the the old games

and so Casey's been getting back into the swing of it with them but the Simplicity to just pop in the cartridge

and play beats having to get online and make accounts and oh and download things for hours and then put man you just pop

the game in and go that's what old dudes like yes yes

def yeah so uh that was kind of our run with it I mean everybody everybody else

of course then you know after we made it cool for everybody everybody else then jumped on and started playing Madden and

continues to this day but I guess like a lot of things we did kind of outgrow it it out it outpaced us at some point but

we definitely had our fun during the console days of the 80s and 90s for sure absolutely yeah lot of waste of

hours huh a lot of wasted time yeah not I don't know if it was I

don't think it was Wast just not uh productive yeah yeah let's call it that

like you said it could have been worse could have been a lot worse uh anybody got anything else they want to add that

that's kind of the old man run with video sports video games uh anything else about any I will I do want to add

this quick story because I I do think it's important but David I'll never forget your dad making chocolate chip

cookies for us more than once I was lucky enough I was lucky enough to be a part of that two or three different

times and it was awesome man David's dad would would catch about that while ago

yeah he would god what he do double the recipe or triple it or something he

would make he would make chocolate chip cookies that were about the size of a quarter and he would just he would say

I'm gonna go to the store and get a couple gallons of milk you think couple of gallons well when he starts turning out them all those little uh chocolate

chip cookies man and there's four five six dudes sitting around he had to double or triple the recipe because yeah

they were gone The Killing thing is he would start like 9:00 start making oh yeah yeah cook all night I hope you guys

want to dump a pound of sugar in your stomach at one o'clock in the morning because that's what's gonna happen exact

exactly yeah he did that multiple I'm not saying it was an every weekend thing but I can think I can easily say two

three four times that happened and oh he'd just be in the mood that he wanted to do it and he'd be like hey you guys

y'all eat some chocolate chip cookies w't you and you're like uh yeah when everybody was out of school for holiday

break for Christmas break or whatever it was definitely a time he do it at least twice during that break it seemed like

that that's when this really ramped up I can even remember everybody dating and you take a girlfriend home or something

and it's midnight or whatever and still get together and play for a couple hours it really ramped up over Christmas break

when because everybody was back together and out of school and so forth and we definitely put the hours in there all

right if nobody has anything else to say I'm going to kill the recording here and we'll we'll shoot the breeze for just a minute thank you for joining us on Gen X

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